EmberOT Founder and CEO Jori VanAntwerp joins host Aaron Crow for a conversation about AI in OT and the realities of protecting operational technology and critical infrastructure.

Jori VanAntwerp on PrOTect IT All podcast re: Keeping Humans In the Loop
EmberOT Founder and CEO Jori VanAntwerp returns to speak with Aaron Crow on the PrOTect IT All podcast for a candid conversation about AI, automation, and the realities of securing OT environments.
In Episode 123, Jori and Aaron dig into why AI should support (not replace) human judgment in OT cybersecurity. They discuss sandboxing AI in real workflows, why AI-discovered vulnerabilities may not matter in an OT environment, and the risks of over-automating work that still requires experience and context.
They also explore the long-term impact of skipping junior talent, the build-vs-buy MVP trap, and why manual operations remain a critical last line of defense when technology fails.
- Listen to the full episode here: https://protectitallpod.com/ep123/
- Check out more PrOTect IT All podcast episodes here: https://protectitallpod.com/
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