Jori VanAntwerp joins John Martinez on the StrongDM “John Has Trust Issues” podcast to discuss zero trust in OT.

EmberOT Founder Interviewed on the StrongDM “John Has Trust Issues” Podcast re: Zero Trust Meets OT
Cybersecurity meets physical systems!
In this two-part series of the “John Has Trust Issues” podcast, John Martinez of StrongDM interviews EmberOT founder Jori VanAntwerp, who shares his insights about the unique risks and challenges of securing environments where milliseconds matter, and downtime isn’t an option. The podcast digs into Operational Technology and how it keeps our world running.
In Part 1, they discuss:
- Why Jori refuses to give out his phone number at restaurants (His trust issue)
- The crucial differences between IT, OT, and IoT
- The reality of air-gapped environments
- How legacy systems like Windows XP and serial connections still dominate critical industries
- Segmentation when it comes to reducing risk in OT networks
- The importance of safety and understanding physical consequences in cybersecurity
View Part 1: https://youtu.be/8pYo9yxDx9Y?si=JRumdzzCRe2fUb9H
In part two of the series, the conversation gets even more real. Jori breaks down the most common attack techniques, recent breaches, and why traditional IT security playbooks don’t fully work in OT environments.
In Part 2, they discuss:
- Applying Zero Trust in OT
- OT attacker’s first move and what to do about it
- Lessons from real incidents
- How EmberOT’s IgniteOnsite is arming responders with game-changing tools
- Jori’s personal reflections and career advice (Spoiler alert: he said to first start a career in IT)
View Part 2: https://youtu.be/23oCjVaeS-o?si=0YAvO7UryDsMUUtS
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